Former Perlis Mufti Dr Asri Zainul Abidin
By Debra Chong
KUALA LUMPUR: The controversy over non-Muslims using the word “Allah” looks likely to rage on further despite an apparent consensus following a pow-wow by Islamic experts here last week.
Former Perlis Mufti Dr Asri Zainul Abidin told The Malaysian Insider that the main thrust of the day-long expert discussion — or muzakarah as it is termed in the Islamic context — dealt with whether or not non-Muslims could use the word “Allah” and the general agreement was that they could, based on certain guidelines which have yet to be spelled out.
“We discussed whether they could use or not,” Asri said, referring to the ongoing debate on allowing Christians to use the word “Allah” to refer to their God.
But, former Prime Minister Tun Abdullah Badawi who chaired the closed-door expert discussion hosted by the government-linked Institute of Islamic Understanding Malaysia (Ikim), had later told reporters the 70-strong participants had “unanimously agreed” that the source of the “religious crisis” that had befallen Malaysia could be traced back to the “inaccurate” Christian translation of “God” as “Allah” even as he pushed for inter-faith dialogues to resolve the problem.
This prompted a joint clarification from PAS President Datuk Seri Hadi Awang, PKR central committee member Dr Mohd Nur Manuty and Asri.
In their joint statement the three men stated that the use of the word “Allah” for the purposes of religious practices, whether among Christians or Jews was allowed under Islam.
“To ensure national harmony, this debate should be resolved by promoting the culture of inter-faith dialogue which is mature and intelligent.
“The irresponsible use of the word “Allah” must be avoided so that it does not become an issue which can affect racial and religious harmony. As such a guideline on its use must be established,” the three men said.
A huge religious debate had exploded here pitting Muslims against non-Muslims following a landmark High Court ruling last December that the Arabic word “Allah” was not exclusive to Islam and that a Malaysian Catholic newspaper could publish it to refer to God in the Christian sense to cater to their Bahasa Malaysia-speaking followers.
Many Malaysian Muslims claim “Allah” is exclusive to their community.
In his press statement earlier, Abdullah had used the word “a majority” to describe the panellists and participants who shared the view that the “inaccurate” translation of the word “Allah” had been the source of the dispute.
“There were no dissenting views. It was unanimous,” he claimed when asked who the minority participants were who disagreed with the root cause of the problem.
Asri was surprised at Abdullah’s public statement and strongly disagreed with the ex-premier that the day-long discussion centred on whether the translation was accurate or not.
“The question was whether they could use or not,” said Asri.
He said Ikim’s stand was that non-Muslims were misusing the word “Allah”.
“But that’s a different concept of religion,” Asri emphasised to The Malaysian Insider, pointing out that non-Muslims were entitled to argue the theological differences.
“We,” Asri stressed, referring to himself, the PAS president and the PKR leader, “say they can use the word ‘Allah’, but must have certain guidelines.”
The Muslim cleric frequently described as a maverick said Ikim concurred on that point and said they would discuss further what those guidelines should be.
But Asri, who was among seven panellists invited to head the expert discussion, said he would not be involved in those extra discourses.
The other speakers were: PAS president, Datuk Seri Hadi Awang; PKR central leadership council member, Dr Mohd Nur Manuty; religious adviser to the prime minister, Datuk Dr Abdullah Md Zain; Dr Kamar Oniah Kamaruzzaman, an associate professor in the International Islamic University’s Usuluddin and Comparative Religion department; Dr Mohd Sani Badron, Ikim’s centre of economic and social studies director; and his Ikim colleague Md Asham Ahmad, a fellow in the centre for syariah, law and politics centre.
Some 70 people took part in the discussion, including representatives from the Attorney General’s Chambers, state Islamic councils, state mufti department, academics and non-governmental Muslim organisations.
Ikim had been set up in 1992 “to promote the real understanding of Islam in order to sanctify the true teachings of the religion without indulging in rhetorics or diverging from the correct path”, according to the information on its website.
Courtesy: TheMalaysianInsider
Published By Tok Kali
Wahai Si Mohammad Saidin..kamu hang org apa..tak hormati pakcik Tok nie. memang org muda zaman sekarang memang kuat mencaci sini sana.Hang cakpa apa..cakap org bodoh , org nyanyuk..memang kamu cakap agama tapi minda kamu dan hati kamu busuk. Suka merepek-repek tak tentu arah. Woi Si muhammad..jangan kasar di sini. Bertaubatlah ..
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1 John 5:7 "(God) the Father, (God) the Word (Jesus the Son of God also!?), and (God) the Holy Ghost (Spirit); and these three are one," has been expunged in the RSV of 1952 and 1971 and in many other Bibles as a gloss that had encroached in the Greek text. Check it out!
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Sepak dulu kepala kamu sendiri, sebab ilmu agama kamu cetek walaupun kamu dah jadi 'Tok' tetapi masih bodoh tolol macam orang nyanyuk. Semaklah sejarah bahawa pakar-pakar agama dan ahli-ahli kaji purba mendapati kitab-kitab perjanjian lama dan baru berbahasa Hebrew dan Greek menggunakan 'Elohim' dan 'Theos' bukan 'Allah', respectively. Sudahlah 'Tok Kali' dah tua bangka tetapi berlagak berdarah muda cepat marah pula. Ini adalah kali terakhir saya layan kamu memandangkan kamu contoh cenderong ke physical abuse. Tok Kali bodoh dan cetek ilmu sejarah agama. Tak malu langsung menyeret orang lain dengan contohnya yang sangat buruk di media. Selamat tinggal selama-lamanya.
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Woi Si Mohammad Saidin..apa yang kamu lagi merepak-repak, nanti ku sepak kamu nanti macam bola. Yang kawin ramai tu siapa? Nabi apa? Jangan kamu segan baca siapa dia Nabi yang ada ramai perempuan...mana ada masa untuk kerja Allah? Jangan lupa David dan Solomon bukan pembawa agama baru. Mereka cuma nabi biasa saja.Kalimat Allah di gunakan dulu2 sebelum nya agam Islam datang. Sebulum kamu dilahirkan. Jangan kamu halang apa yang di gunakan oleh penganut2 lain sebelum Islam. Mereka berhak dulu sekarang dan selama-lamanya. Tak erti konsep Triniti dalam satu Allah...jangan komen apa yanf kamu tak pandai. Jangan mengada-ada..salam
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Kalau nak tahu sangat siapa yang kahwin ramai, carilah dalam Gospel about Solomon and David among others. Agama lain bebas mengamalkan agama masing-masing sejak sekian lama preferably menggunakan 'Elohim'and 'Theos' in Trinity dalam Gospel sejak dari dahulu lagi sebelum kedatangan Al-Quran. So, ikut sahajalah mereka tanpa perlu gunakan 'Allah' in Trinity. Takkanlah masih tak faham lagi! Sportinglah sikit OK.
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Hai Si Mohammad saidin, apa yang you merepak-repak. Tiada ke kerja lain ? senaja nak cari pasal. Padahal kamu tak erti agama Kristian, tolong jaga mulut sikit. Hormat mehormati sesama agama. Jikalau kamu ingin tahu..ramai orang dah cakap apasal nabi mu kawin ramai.Memang mana ada masa untuk kerja Allah. Jangan caci agama lain, maka orang lain akan hormati agama kamu. Yang kamu tak erti, tolong senyap. Tak erti konsep Triniti, jangan merepak.Salam
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Hopefully, the guidelines or rules to using Allah would be within the context of non-Arabic speaking Trinitarians instead of within the context of the Arab pagans or the Arabic speaking Trinitarians. The Trinitarians already know for a fact that their Trinitarian discussions as a form of worship and prayer are still valid and acceptable to asserting their constitutional rights for freedom of religion, like using 'God' and 'Lord' in New York here to be similar with 'Tuhan' and 'Dewata' in Malay, or preferably 'Elohim' and 'Theos' as out of more respect for their ancient manusc
ripts, namely the Old Testament and the New Testament which were first discovered to have been written in Hebrew and Greek by scriptural scholars and archeological researchers, respectively without invoking 'Allah' in Trinity at all. I therefoe strongly doubt that any Muslim who knows Suratul Al-Ikhlas would agree on 'Allah' in Trinity, since the non-Arabic speaking Malaysian Trinitarians cuma sengaja mengada-gada yang bukan-bukan nak guna juga kalimah 'Allah' in Trinity. Malulah sikit pada orang-orang barat yang pastinya tahu bahawa kamu as Trinitarians are making an unreasonable and irrational demand yang tidak munasabah to using 'Allah' in Trinity yang kamu sudahpun maklum sebagai tiada perlu sama-sekali to worshipping your triune God in Trinity. Get over it, will ya!